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19 July 2017 16:50

16 July 2017 21:20
"If" SC does go under [pure speculation here] what will happen with AC?
19 July 2017 15:23
Ya mean you really DON`T control those things or the weather or the spinning of the earth?

19 July 2017 03:02
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Thanks MrKi101. As you say a lot of that is out of my control unfortunately.

18 July 2017 22:18
late addition:
Often I listen to tracks long after I`ve gone and voted for them (often it`s an involuntary hand thing l,l,l) So I would like to have my vote reflect that I`ve gone and done that extra listen. But I`m unable to change or alter my vote in anyway-nor once I`ve voted can I enter another vote. In SC I could un-click my vote and place it further on down the line

18 July 2017 22:04
BTW Guiding Tech looked interesting and I did join but as my email has been and still is down I can`t respond to their email to continue the join process !@#$ !@#$ !@#$

18 July 2017 22:02
First off I surely hope you`re around for that long-long live ACR
I would still love it to be able post right here and not depend on another site but you`ve already expressed how difficult that might be.
Much of those "necessary things" are kind of out of your hands. Things this like people giving real reviews and actual critiques of what they hear and think might make the piece better.
And the ability NOT to have people float junk that really doesn`t matter to anyone and really has nothing at all to do with your song (or really anything else on earth or on this site!) Again this is something that`s not necessarily anything you can do much about.
The suggestions I`ve submitted before pretty much fit into this question so I won`t bore you with repeating them.

18 July 2017 03:49
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MrKil101 - thank you for your views on BandCamp, etc.

I will of course do everything in my power (finances not withstanding) to make this site as friendly and welcoming to musicians as I possibly can with all the features that people require.

I would love your input on what you think would make ACR as good as SoundCloud (or better?). If we used YouTube as the vehicle to get the music heard (being as it is probably the most likely service to still be around in 10 years). What features would I need to add? What don`t you like about it in its current form?

Be as honest as you like as I really do want this to be the ultimate destination for the "kind musician" :-)

17 July 2017 07:21
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hey everyone im a independent rapper from Philadelphia all good vibes and good music check me out please..

17 July 2017 05:05
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Yes, those two sites have completely different priorities than SC

Flicker ( posted these, seems to be a few that might work, but it will take time to both acclimate to the style and rebuild followers.

17 July 2017 04:24
Ok I can see I didn`t look down deep enough to see that thread. Anyway I, tentatively, joined both BandCamp and MixCloud (again) and found them, so far, to be just about what I`d predicted in my rant of a few weeks ago. Basically I still feel they`re not for me. The restrictions they put on the users are pretty tight and neither of them seem to allow love for the music which is, I think at the heart of this whole deal, to shine through-at least not for moi. Yes, I understand that this IS a business but it`s a business based on a very feely/touchy thing called the arts and the "suits" need to allow for that. So the alternatives everyone is talking about down there of YouTube and maybe some of the others mentioned might have to be it if I find they can be trusted enough. I`m still thinking all these sites are missing the heart and community feel of the original Soundcloud and I will continue to look for that although I keep having doubts that I will ever find it again. (deep sigh!)

17 July 2017 00:22
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check out the conversation below started on July 7

19 July 2017 10:22
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Here`s another take on the SoundCloud woes.

All makes me think that using YouTube as the host for the music and then adding all the required features that people like on SoundCloud here would be the way to go.

No issue of costs spiralling out of control and no requirement to make money either.

18 July 2017 17:17
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Please take a few minutes to think about and comment on my post in the New Features board regarding making as good as SoundCloud -

16 July 2017 10:46
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Indus Rush
Hi, I`m new on this site as of last week, and I`m wondering about a couple of issues I`m having with the Spotify play on the "Listen" page. When I click play, instead of going to a Playlist on Spotify, it goes to the album of the artist track presented. On "repeat" and "random play". the album gets played in it`s entirety, and does not randomly pick out a new song and artist from the playlist. How can I change this so I can play everybody`s music evenly and fairly?
18 July 2017 13:12
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The Spotify player may be using your settings from the app. Don`t know if there is a setting for playing an album when a track is selected. Might be worth a quick Google if you can`t find anything.

18 July 2017 00:05
Hi guys check out my soundcloud!

15 July 2017 10:54
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Musical Artizan
can anyone help me im a new spotify artist why isnt my music playing on spotify. My home network collapsed i had to rebuilld it. now any local file i add does not play. there is some network issue but dont know what is it is. Would appreciate some help? tech help needed.
16 July 2017 01:41
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We`re all probably better with instruments and audio than tech. My network troubleshooting start & ends with unplug & replug in. Don`t even know site to redirect you to

15 July 2017 04:36
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An interesting article on detecting Music Industry Scammers:
15 July 2017 16:14
Behold the Sludge
That`s right up there with getting these bogus solicitations about buying SoundCloud plays and these pricks on SoundCloud who offer to conditionally support you on their network of "10,000+ followers" by liking or reposting their crappy music. Parasites...

15 July 2017 11:04
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Annie who?

Thanks Lliam. Sadly unsurprising to know that scammers will try just about anything. Always worth having your cynic`s hat on, no matter how flattering the approach.

07 July 2017 13:00
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Not looking good for Soundcloud
Wonder what the options are.
15 July 2017 04:11
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Anyone know of ADSR website? Excellent synth training. They posted a few links for backing up & transfering SC files:

14 July 2017 15:08
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you could easily see the collapse of streaming in a few years as most are in the red
you tube will be ok though as they have so much advertising revenue

14 July 2017 14:08
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One really nice thing about this site is that plays here reflect back to the song`s origin in terms of likes and listens. This encouraged me to pay more attention to linking Spotify to ACR. I`ve been ignoring my YouTube account because CDBaby posts them there with only a static album cover image and most YouTubers I know go for the video delights.

But if we must drop Soundcloud then it seems YouTube would be the logical next best. It certainly is a platform that encourages all types of uploads, so would be good for the diversity found here. I certainly would appreciate ACR helping this community look good there as it has already done for us in Soundcloud.

14 July 2017 04:12
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Hi all. Sorry for the radio silence. Been out and about a lot.

It is indeed somber news about SoundCloud however this site will continue regardless!!

I was thinking of looking into getting an automatic YouTube uploader created. It would basically take your song and add an Atom Collector Records static image or maybe even looping video of some sort that would help to promote and grow the site.

I can`t see YouTube shutting down so that would seem to be the most stable platform.

Another option is, as mentioned, to allow the music to be uploaded here but that opens up a lot of challenges not least the costs involved.

So what do we all think about the YouTube idea?

P.S. I will be adding BandCamp and ReverbNation very soon and also extend the number of YouTube tracks to 50.

14 July 2017 03:32
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Whatever happens I am pleased to have crossed paths with al you at ACR. Itís marvelous to listen to and hear feedback from so many other talented musicians in so many styles. Iíve no doubt Juxta can figure a way to turn any change into a new platform, but till then Iím gonna copy all your kind song comments to remember the great community we have here.

14 July 2017 03:32
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For alternatives I like Bandcamp, but it seems to be geared toward finished products rather than ongoing aural explorations. Itís a great place to get albums from favorite Soundcloud artists. You Tube means a moving image as the attraction to listen. I plan on getting there, but right now only have audio. Mixcloud is good for playlists, but individual artists get lost. Reverbnation seems abit clunky. I havenít used the others.

There really is nothing like soundcloud. Wonder how much it costs to run and how many subscribers it would take. Be nice if someone could manage successfully and make it worthwhile to have a subscription. Juxtacloud or Wudcloud would both be promising alternatives for both policy and attitude, but ideas and funding are not easy to have at the same time.

12 July 2017 12:36
I use the following SC alternatives:

I think Bandcamp is also interesting, but i have no experience.
I was not happy with ReverbNation and removed my account (many followers without playing a song). could also be interesting for you

11 July 2017 12:17
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Dark Company
George here again, I play in Dark Company as well as Flicker...

Here`s what Music Week wrote about SoundCloud. Not much more information and not looking very hopeful.

11 July 2017 01:06
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More thoughts on alternatives to SC:

10 July 2017 23:58
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Our label Wud Records has a number of grumbles concerning SC and is currently involved in a somewhat acrimonious long-term dispute with them concerning some of their policy decisions and attitude. This piece of news is no surprise given the way they treat their customers.

For example, take a look at this:

SC is almost certainly going under within a year and is not a viable concern for the future. So where does that leave us all?

Sam found this and has been looking into it a bit, but he`s pretty busy with various things and hasn`t done much yet. Anyone here have experience of any of these sites?

10 July 2017 00:25
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Ghostly Beard
They have an offer from Deezer, they would be best to take it. They`ve refused Spotify offer before, but if they don`t take this one they might be down by the end of the year...

08 July 2017 16:23
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Mind you we could just encourage everyone to upload all their tracks to YouTube. Maybe I could provide an upload area that automatically puts a static image with the track.

I don`t see YouTube going under any time soon!

08 July 2017 16:20
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Blimey. That`s a little worrying. Especially as there was a report about how they were making a profit last year when Spotify were rumoured to be in talks about buying them out.

I better look into how difficult it would be to allow people to upload their music on here!

13 July 2017 20:54
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